Is lack of reimbursement a fair excuse for not getting started with telemedicine?

NIrav Desai

In a recent interview with Karen Rheuban, director of the Virginia Telehealth Network and a former president of the American Telemedicine Association, she explained how passage of telemedicine reimbursement legislation in Virginia dramatically increased telemedicine adoption in that state (http://www.handsontelehealth.com/videos/interviews/119-karen-rheuban).

But there’s a lingering question in my mind: Haven’t there been hundreds of telemedicine programs that have gotten started without the help of reimbursement?

If so, is it a fair excuse to say you can't start a telemedicine program without proper reimbursement for telemedicine consults?

I’ll share a few of the more than 40 responses I got to this question when I posted it on LinkedIn.

Here is the original question, followed by a selection of responses.

This may be controversial, but do you think it's a fair excuse that telehealth programs can't get started because of poor reimbursement for telehealth consultations? I recognize that paying physicians for their telehealth consultations is crucial to getting their engagement, and of course there is wider telehealth adoption in states where legislation has been passed to require payors to reimburse for telehealth consultations. However, isn't it true that many telehealth programs got started and are still getting started without such legislative support or adequate reimbursement? What do you see as the adoption drivers that have enabled people to overcome the reimbursement challenge?

Roger Downey – marketing communications director at GlobalMed:

I don't think it's that controversial at all, Nirav. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS) have had these limitations in place because of the unwarranted fear that physicians would overuse telemedicine and then overbill CMS. At the present time, Medicare will only reimburse physicians for telemedicine if the patients are 25+ miles from a metropolitan area in an underserved rural location. That rule is ridiculous, and I'm confident it will be changed in the near future. The reason some physicians in rural areas are moving into telemedicine (or telehealth, if you prefer) is that physician to physician consults can be reimbursed.

Rafael J. Grossmann Zamora, MD, FACS, attending trauma surgeon at Eastern Maine Medical Center, Bangor, Maine:

Thanks for an interesting discussion. As a surgeon in a rural area (watch TEDx "iPodTeletrauma" at www.TEDxDirigo.com) this is a conversation very "close to my heart." The good news is that I'm an employed surgeon, so reimbursement is not a "direct major" issue to me in the short term, at least. Having said this, it is helpful and certainly a main driver for adoption by the "administration," not the users so much, that it is a reimbursable interaction nowadays.
To me, the answer to Nirav's initial question is NO. It is not an excuse, and it should not be. It is in a sense immoral to base NON-ADOPTION of a practice which certainly benefits patients and improves healthcare delivery, as well as outcomes (telemedicine and mobile-telemedicine) on the lack of monetary gain for "someone" (reimbursement).

If "iPodTeletrauma" was not reimbursed (now it is, because of the recent changes, as Roger explained), would it be excusable or smart not to use the device to communicate emergently with a provider in desperate need of advice to treat an acute patient, an instead use a telephone instead? To me it is so intuitive and simple that it should be "the standard of care." It is the evolution of communications. "Video is the new voice!"

Carlos Carrasco, director of business development at Orlando Health:

Since it deals with money and sustainability of businesses, I think it is a very reasonable and fair excuse. It is a shame that this is still the state of the industry, but until it changes, I think it is a very real barrier. Desire for innovation and improving access to quality care will only take us so far. As far as adoption drivers, I think that groups have to define the value that telehealth brings to your organization.

From what I have seen, where it has been sustainably successful, there has been some kind of value that the provider derives from the effort. That could be growing volume for you or your partner (in situations where it is legally appropriate), efficiency in capturing market share without investing in buildings, increase in quality, reduction in costs, etc., accomplishment of mission. ...

I think the presence and/or awareness of these variables and how they affect your business is what helps to drive adoption where telemedicine can be a solution. If the effect is positive, then with or without reimbursement, investment makes sense. If your primary business is to provide physician services, the variables are very different if you employ some physicians to serve a primary business of hospitals. In the former, a revenue stream for services rendered is critical, unless the value is to use it as a market penetration tactic.

In the end I think you have to find a way that in total, the program creates more revenue somewhere or reduces expenses somewhere than it costs, or it will be unsustainable. I think it is also reasonable that you can invest in telehealth as a speculative investment. If you believe the tide will turn toward reimbursement (as most signs indicate it will eventually), then it is a reasonable idea to invest early before the free for all resulting from new reimbursement policies.
Then all you are doing is hoping that you can get your service deployed prior to reimbursement being available, but not too far out so that the cost of starting up cannot be recouped in your expected return timeframe.

Peter Caplan, certified health advocate at HealthNation:

There are numerous subscription based reimbursement models (telestroke, mental health, pediatrics) and call-as-you-go models that reduce the need for insurance reimbursement that offer great value add for physicians and hospital administrators.

David Kuhnke, principal at Telemed Benefit Advisors:

Everyone seems to be discussing the issue from the standpoint of who is going to pay for or allow the service. Telehealth/telemedicine by any name is an opportunity for patients to receive quicker, more convenient, more cost-effective treatment in all cases while fully recognizing the limitations of whatever modality is in play. When the conversation driver is which third party pays, you can make nothing or everything seem perfectly sensible.

It's about time the healthcare monolith made room for physician patient interaction which can be accomplished with a little common sense and some personal responsibility on the part of the patient AND physician. We can't cure everything with telemedicine or telehealth, but why wait for a universal cure when you can have such a positive impact on costs and patient lives by adopting what is possible and readily available? It's time to get out of the control, one size fits all business folks and back into medical care.

Kory Stetina, president and founder, Torch Health Solutions:

I think this is a very fair question, Nirav. While I echo Carlos' comments from earlier regarding the fact that these barriers are real and necessary considerations and in many cases large barriers to telehealth adoption, I also agree that valuable and globally beneficial models can be established in most markets, even without comprehensive reimbursement. In my experience, most telehealth programs are able to generate at least some amount of reimbursement to help offset the necessary subsidies or value derived elsewhere.

Michael Smith, director of operations at HealthShare Bay Area:

Good discussion! My answer is to tie your organization's strategic planning efforts. Develop an in depth understanding of the regional healthcare ecosystem, identifying existing inefficiencies, opportunities for growth, unmet medical needs. Now build a business case targeting the opportunities. Money can be found in new business, improved efficiencies.

Ashley Boyd, marketing manager, SBR Health:

Thanks for posing this question. In talking with physicians, the interest in using telehealth to increase access and improve care coordination exists. It's incredibly disappointing that physicians aren't able to use telemedicine tools available. In my experience, healthcare organizations and physicians are 'thinking' about telehealth but not moving forward due to reimbursement and available data. We need innovators willing to test the water and show others that telehealth really can improve overall efficiency, quality and access to care.

David Lee Scher, MD, senior medical advisor, Happtique:

Physicians will embrace this IF:

  1. Reimbursement models incentivize them to do it, whether fee for service or bundled payments.
  2. Positive well-designed and implemented relevant clinical studies about telehealth are performed and presented widely at professional society meetings, not just HIMSS and mHealth conferences
  3. It decreases stress and increases efficiency.

Other responses
Follow this link to see the entire discussion. http://www.linkedin.com/groups/This-may-be-controversial-but-1353607.S.9...

Final Thoughts
Lack of reimbursement is indeed a barrier to telemedicine adoption. But there are viable models that enable telehealth programs to get started despite reimbursement limitations:

  • Altruism;
  • Grant funding – enabling clinicians to get paid;
  • Employed physician models – because physician incomes are not necessarily tied to how many patients they see in one modality or another;
  • Physician service organization models;
  • Subscription-based models;
  • Competitive drive;
  • Simple applications that solve a patient care problem.

When you’re trying to get telehealth solutions started in a facility, speak with the key influencers and decision-makers to figure out which of the above factors/solutions influence their support for telehealth. You may find that lack of reimbursement is not as big a barrier as it seems.

As the CEO of Hands On Telehealth, Nirav Desai hosts a web-based show where he interviews leaders in the telehealth industry and publishes an on-line newsletter focused on telehealth marketing and strategy. He also consults with hospitals, health systems and telehealth companies to help them fast-track the growth of their telehealth solutions through better marketing and strategy. You can get his free eBook “The 10 Secrets of Telehealth Success” at http://www.handsontelehealth.com/freebook.
 

Comments

Peter Caplan
More and more today, the cost of deploying a basic telemedicine service is being built into the overall cost of doing business irrespective of insurance reimbursement (for many this represents icing on the cake and is not seen as the principle driving motivation, subscription based reimbursement models continue to evolve with patients taking more responsibility for paying for access to providers). With existing telecom infrastructure investments, the cost of adding video conferencing services and training for clinical consults has become manageable for most healthcare providers. As a means for expanding a practice's virtual footprint, telemedicine offers many opportunities for both young and older clinicians wanting to have an immediate and direct impact on their patients' care. With Polycom's recent release of its integrated video conferencing platform, the ease of using telemedicine technology will become more widespread as more mobile apps are developed and adopted.
Dick Dillon
Thank you Nirav for this posting, which is right on. I agree with Marlene on the "migration" issue. Five years ago when I started thinking about using a platform like Second Life to deliver counseling services, the initial thought was to identify current users of SL who might need counseling services. However it became more obvious over time that using a virtual platform allowed better accessibility to a large group of current clients. Rather than bringing virtual world citizens to counseling, we ended up bringing virtual counseling options to current clients! I hope there will always be at least a small group of us who do things before it is clear how to get paid, because we believe that we can do better in the future with the right tools and practices!
Marlene Maheu
Kudos, Nirav! This is a timely and pivotal issue. Your focus is greatly appreciated. There's also the "migration model," which is what we at the Telemental Health institute refer to when we speak of a successful practitioner bringing existing patients to telepractice. The are usually self-pay patients who are happy to cover the expense of remote care because of the convenience. There also are specialty niche markets that have wide appeal becuase they are cost-effective. In my case, I work with employers who send me their smokers for smoking cessation. Marlene

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